A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn’t even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.

Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.

Just FYI for now. It’s late here so I’ll see how we proceed tomorrow.

  • VinceUnderReview
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    This could not be any funnier. Please reddit, take legal control of the piracy subreddit, right as you take the experienced mod team out. I’m sure everything will go fantastic.

  • @Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5311 months ago

    Haha what the fuck I really did NOT think they would do that to r/piracy of all things. Ah well fuck them and their shitty IPO. I‘m here with you guys for good, the structure of the fediverse suits our purposes and community better anyway.

    • @Contend6248@feddit.de
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      2111 months ago

      I would imagine that can lead to legal troubles endorsing r/piracy willingly?

      Accepting it is one thing, but forcing it to open is entirely different.

      • @Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1511 months ago

        I would imagine too, but who knows, there is a different set of rules for companies and the rich.

        Now that Reddit is asserting direct control over it, maybe they‘ll turn it into an anti-piracy sub to prevent any legal trouble.

      • @valveman@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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        311 months ago

        Well, they could just say: “We made a script to track every mod who closed their sub, revogate its mod permissions and notify all other mods in the sub with an automatic message”, which basically frees them from any charges regarding community content.

        They could, however, be sued for not actively removing illegal content, such as pirated things and MAP related things (e.g. r/jailbait)

  • rvreq
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    4811 months ago

    This bullshit made me nuke my 30k karma account. I hope lemmy won’t die month later.

    • db0OPM
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      2511 months ago

      That’s literally impossible! An instance may go down, but it will stay cached.

      • rvreq
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        911 months ago

        Okie, I’m absolute noob here. Right now I struggle to find night mode. :D

  • @pillems@lemmy.world
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    4711 months ago

    I say transfer as much as you can over here, then nuke the sub completely. The source of knowledge are mostly here now and everything else can be rebuild. We are pirates, we don’t yield easily and can survive anywhere.

    • TWeaK
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      911 months ago

      Mods can’t nuke the sub, the only thing anyone can do is delete their own user content. However, even then reddit can probably restore it.

      • @pillems@lemmy.world
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        1011 months ago

        I figured. If websites like unddit, ceddit, removeddit etc was able to recover deleted posts and comments, I’m sure the admins can do so too.

        But we’re also a crafty bunch. There must be a way to destroy the sub where reddit can’t restore it properly. Like how a user can mass edit their own comments/posts before deleting them, so when reddit restore them back they would only show the edits instead of the originals. Basically use reddit’s own feature against them if we can.

        Even small thing like getting rid of the megathread and wiki would discourage people to go into the sub. It’s information that people after, if we get rid of those then there’s no point in going anymore. Slower death and a little anticlimactic that way though.

        • @TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          711 months ago

          As far as I know, they only store the last version on the live system. So if you just overwrite it with gibberish and then or don’t delete it, only the backups will have your true comments.

      • @samus12345@lemmy.world
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        111 months ago

        And how funny would it be for a corpo like reddit to go out of their way to restore content designed to make piracy easier?

  • 5 Card Draw
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    2911 months ago

    Look at them using the community and users as a shield and a bargaining chip.

      • @TechnoBabble@lemmy.world
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        611 months ago

        “We don’t like that you’re protesting against us shitting on our users, so think about the users, and stop protesting against us.”

  • @A2PKXG@feddit.de
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    2811 months ago

    Oh thank God, i first thought that the reddit navy entered Lemmy. i don’t care about what happens on reddit, in fact, i’e be happy if they’d harm it.

    But: can’t mods nuke the subreddit history before they’re demoded?

    • db0OPM
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      2411 months ago

      reddit will porobably undelete anything like that anyway

      • Manu
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        711 months ago

        Yes, but it would cause them extra work. Just say you volunteer to open up again and take the lead, then go for it 🤭

    • _Stalwart_
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      911 months ago

      There are two problems with this :

      1. Nuking all this valuable info will waste years and years of people trying to share their knowledge.

      2. Reddit will probably un-delete it.

      • @valveman@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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        Isn’t Reddit GDPR copliant? Because if they are, they can’t simply undelete things without users’ permission

        • SirMrR4M
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          311 months ago

          I don’t think comments you made are covered by GDPR. Unless you got personal information in the comment

        • @redballooon@lemm.ee
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          211 months ago

          By putting content on Reddit you have agreed to make it theirs.

          Don’t know what the GDPR has to do with that. That is about protection of personal data.

          • TWeaK
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            611 months ago

            Reddit comments are ultimately opinions of the user. Under GDPR, the user has the right to correct information that is wrong. Thus, a user has a right to correct and remove their opinions, and this right supersedes their terms and conditions.

        • brianorca
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          211 months ago

          Depends if it’s the user that asked for deletion or a mod.

      • @Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world
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        Tell everyone to come here while slowly deleting the content over time from multiple accounts. That should make it harder to restore. Oh and edit what you can instead of just deleting.

    • @WisteriaCat@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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      211 months ago

      Reddit will probably undelete the content. Some former reddit users have reported that all the posts they nuked out of existence was restore a couple days later without their consent.

  • @d_bradr@lemmy.world
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    2811 months ago

    We’ll build a better ship with a sturdier ram, 32 pounder cannons and free wenches and rum! Dbzer0 for captain, 2023

  • Kangy
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    2711 months ago

    Looks like I made the right decision to join Lemmy today. Reddit is a sinking ship

  • @Fosheze@lemmy.world
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    2611 months ago

    What the hell reddit? This is r/piracy, we’ve had backup plans on other platforms for ages. Of all the subs to forcibly reopen they do the one with the lowest chance of anyone going back? This has to just be a trial to see how forcibly reopening the front page subs is going to go when they do that.

    • @rm_dash_r_star@lemmy.one
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      711 months ago

      Good point, I doubt many other subs have escape plans. So yeah we’d be the first to jump ship. Not a good control group for an experiment.

      • @Bischob@feddit.de
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        1311 months ago

        Wouldn’t the rules be irrelevant anyway if the sub is no longer properly moderated?

        • Björn Tantau
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          311 months ago

          They could undo that as well. My current plan is to get all my data via GDPR request, host it on my server so that my useful posts and comments don’t get lost forever and then order them to delete all my stuff via a GDPR request.

          • @andobando@lemmy.world
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            111 months ago

            Can they? It doesnt seem so simple because they have no way of knowing which posts are edited in good faith vs not.

            They can try to undo comments which sre repeated 10x+ times or something I guess, but editing users comments seems like a really bad move

            • Björn Tantau
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              They shouldn’t be able to know which posts were deleted in good faith either. But here we are. I bet undeleting user content is a big fat GDPR violation. Just gotta find someone who cares enough to sue.

  • @SchrodingersDude@lemmy.world
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    2311 months ago

    First post on Lemmy thanks to this shit! Struggling to understand how a lot of it works still, but absolutely fuck this nonsense from Reddit

    • TWeaK
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      211 months ago

      It’s pretty straightforward really. Just be sure to branch out a bit and look at content from other instances - although, as a lemmy.world user you currently can’t interact with beehaw.org.

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    IMO the option here would be to open the sub, but implement new rules.

    Nowhere does it say the sub needs to be on topic. There are many off-topic subs out there (that news sub that’s mostly porn, marijuanaenthusiasts).

    From now on, only text posts containing a punchline to the joke “why did the chicken cross the road” are allowed.